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fannemoran (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 6:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm a little confused. I was taught at school to start the beard of a schnauzer at the back corner of the eye. I've been seeing some that start at the front corner. Which is correct?????}
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msspider
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Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2003 - 9:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whatever the client wants is correct. Some schnauzers I do have eye goobers deluxe and they just keep cleaner clipping all that out. Actually the back corner of the eye is correct.

But anymore I never say tell clients this the 'normal' way I do schnauzers it makes them sound odd if they want something different. I say this is my basic schnauzer clip....then we can go from there to personalize it.
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yorkees
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Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It is correct to start the eyebrows and beard at the back corner of the eye.
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mags
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Posted on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm guilty of clipping out eye boogers in front of the inside corners, and I'll also use a 10 or 15 to clean between the brows and along the stop whatever hair is growing straight back (once it drapes to the side I leave it). I do NOT clip the hair across the bottom of the eye... rather, i'll take a 7f and go in reverse from the cowlick under the ear to the outside corner of the eye to about the corner of the mouth, to the big whisker thingy under the chin. Then I blend all that in with thinning shears. I'll take my curved shears, invert them, and trim up the underside of the beard, but I don't normally cut any length off except to even it up.

My question is wrt the actual brows. For years I've been getting by on whatever it is that I do, but I'm never happy with my schnauzer brows. Got any tips for me Yorkees?
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yorkees
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yep...I have one tip...check out the post under
Breed styles"..then under terriers..then the one that says "Quick schnauzer head"....I drew a little diagram with a foolproof way to do the eyebrows and beards....hope it helps!
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Betty gr8k9s (Unregistered Guest)
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If it's the same diagram I'm thinking of (too lazy to go looking *blush*), I've been using this for, oh, about the past year or so. Yorkees, it is brilliant and I'm so much happier with my Schnauzer heads. I also like the fact that it takes only a few minutes. You rock!
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mags
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Ahh... can't wait to try this out! What always got me was shaping the angle from the outer corner of the eye towards the nose... looks like your way is a LOT easier. Also, I always clipped the top of the head like a V between the brows (make sense? from ear to opposite eye) rather than straight across... gonna try that too! Thanks!
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yorkees
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Glad it helps!
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lindaj (Unregistered Guest)
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I was taugh to fine the black hair wisker and shave from that point for a proper beard.
Happy Grooming!!!!
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coquihalla
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 4:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the very good sch. pic!
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stonespringer
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The line should be from the corner of the eye to the nodule(hard whisker) on the side of the face. You then blend in with thinning shears the corner of the eye, this is a head shot of one of the dogs I handle
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thedotteddog
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Now THAT is a Schnauzer head! Thanks!
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stonespringer
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Anytime Dot:-)
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kitty
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Stonespringer....does everybody showing leave the beard as long as possible? On my pets I usually trim it to almost half the length this dog has. Do show people ever trim the length?
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particentral
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The girl working for me does the heads like the first picture, back about a half inch behind the eye. It drives me CRAZY and I cannot get her to understand the connect the dots theory.....any suggestion? Will, as usual, nice work.
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coquihalla
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Omg, stonespringer, he is beeeautiful!
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stonespringer
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The beard hair stops growing when it reaches a certain length. On dogs that I own and handle I do not trim their beard length at all, the most I will do is even it out if needed. My show clients and personal dogs have full beards and I never have problems with them. Client dogs I will trim if requested.
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stonespringer
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Parti, Notes From The Grooming Table has a great schnauzer head study with easy to follow illustrations, that can take your girl step by step through it
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particentral
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 9:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think her problem is she was taught incorrectly, and has worked for three years doing it "wrong" with no one ever correcting her, and as a result it is impossible to get her to understand that its not right. I mean, it was good enough for PS and The other shop she worked in, so what is wrong with it?


I have even done this step by step instruction myself to no avail!

Thanks Will, I appreciate ANY help you can offer. I may have to have her buy that book (I do not own a copy for reasons I will not get into) but if it MIGHT help her I will see if I can get her to spring for it. She also does all cocker heads smooth or with this HUGE poodley thing on top......we are working on it, and I end up finishing a lot of her dogs.

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