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calicodog
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Username: calicodog
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 152.163.253.98
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 7:32 am: | 
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I had a lady bring in 4 poodles from a rescue she did. They were very dirty, from being kenneled, I believe. I thought I could clean them up pretty nice till I started clipping. They had tiny brown things, at first resembling fleas, but they were almost under the skin. some I could pinch out or take my nail and they would come out. They were not moving. I clipped them down and used a flea shampoo on them. then i got to the last one and she had what seemed to be a bad case of dandrif. Would this be LICE? and would the flea shampoo be enough to kill it off? I had her get some shampoo for lice and it was a flea shampoo that said it was for Lice. She also got some of the powder. She does have several other dogs of her own who had been in with these dogs. Also what would be the best way to be sure it doesn't spread thru the shop? Luckily I didn't have any other dogs in.
Thanks for your help.
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underdog
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Username: underdog
Post Number: 375
Registered: 4-2003
Posted From: 69.46.193.127
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 8:06 am: |
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Ok, you just gave me the eebie jeebies. I had a dog in a couple of weeks ago that was a springer that was full of burrs for a strip down. When all the hair was off I noticed these little brown things that seemed to be still stuck to the skin & I assumed they part of the burrs! Now you're making me wonder if they were lice! Does anyone have a picture of what lice look like? I guess I've never seen one & wouldn't know what to look for. |
rev
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Username: rev
Post Number: 6785
Registered: 1-1999
Posted From: 152.163.253.98
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 9:01 am: |
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That sounds like ticks. Some are quite small. |
doggygirl
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Username: doggygirl
Post Number: 975
Registered: 9-2002
Posted From: 142.154.31.10
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 9:08 am: |
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I had a dog full of lice in my shop. It was like sand and no, flea shampoo will not kill it. If I knew then, what I know now, that dog would not have entered my shop. It was horrible and I had to do major, major cleaning of my shop and myself. I actually took the dog to a vet. |
airedalemom
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Username: airedalemom
Post Number: 152
Registered: 4-2001
Posted From: 199.247.128.35
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 11:45 am: |
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I had a lady call me once to ask if I would do her dog with the lice Shampoo. I said no that I wouldn't take a lice covered dog in my home. She kept arguing with me that the vet said that it was safe & other dogs wouldn't catch it... yeah right, I groom in my home & dogs must walk through a carpeted area before getting to my grooming room, lice live for 72 hours in carpet. No thanks |
underdog
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Username: underdog
Post Number: 377
Registered: 4-2003
Posted From: 69.46.193.105
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 1:02 pm: |
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In my dog's case (above) I KNOW they weren't ticks. I still think they were the barbs from some burrs. Slicker brush, bathing, combing, nothing would take them all out unless you picked at every one. I just wondered as I wouldn't know lice if I saw it. Crossing my fingers I never do, either! |
rev
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Username: rev
Post Number: 6787
Registered: 1-1999
Posted From: 152.163.253.98
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 26, 2003 - 1:33 pm: |
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If it helps any, the only (few) lice I've ever seen were pale colored, not brown. |
diamondog
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Username: diamondog
Post Number: 1607
Registered: 6-2001
Posted From: 206.231.186.97
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:55 am: |
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The ones I had in my shop were brown. Small, looked like tiny seeds. Weren't moving, seemed stuck to the hair. I didn't know what they were until I got the dog out in the sunlight and took one off and pinched it between my thumbnails. It popped, -gack- . So,...sent dog off to vet with owner, did marathon cleaning, and prayed to God I'll never see another one!!! |
doggygirl
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Username: doggygirl
Post Number: 977
Registered: 9-2002
Posted From: 142.154.31.133
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 12:26 pm: |
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The dog I groomed had brown lice. Vet called it cattle lice. They didn't move either. Reminded me of sand. This dog was covered big time. It was horrible!! |
the_mutineer
Registered Member
Username: the_mutineer
Post Number: 577
Registered: 6-2003
Posted From: 216.105.193.105
| | Posted on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 4:26 pm: |
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Lice are HOST specific. Dogs get dog lice, cats get cat lice, people get people lice, cattle get cattle lice! Here's what dog lice look like:
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doggygirl
Registered Member
Username: doggygirl
Post Number: 980
Registered: 9-2002
Posted From: 142.154.31.7
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 5:45 am: |
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Well this dog I did had cattle lice. The vet took a sample and checked it. He couldn't understand how that happened, but there it was. Really horrible. Those pictures are just awful!! Ewwwwwww. I found out recently this lady with the lousey dog sells dogfood and a friend of mine buys it from her!! Yuck. |
underdog
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Username: underdog
Post Number: 379
Registered: 4-2003
Posted From: 204.73.102.212
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 6:53 am: |
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Thanks, Mac! Never knew what the little buggers looked like. Whew! Definitley wasn't lice in this springer's case. Now I'm wondering what foxtail looks like. That's a burr, isn't it? |
the_mutineer
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Username: the_mutineer
Post Number: 578
Registered: 6-2003
Posted From: 216.105.193.250
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 11:15 am: |
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Doggygirl, I believe you. The lice the dogs get here look more like the cattle lice. A kind of greenish-gray.
Underdog, here's what those nasty foxtails look like. These are "pieces" that cause problems in dogs. |
underdog
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Username: underdog
Post Number: 380
Registered: 4-2003
Posted From: 69.46.193.148
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 1:31 pm: |
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Wow Mac, you are definitely an information highway! LOL Nope, not foxtail either. |
doggygirl
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Username: doggygirl
Post Number: 981
Registered: 9-2002
Posted From: 142.154.31.5
| | Posted on Friday, November 28, 2003 - 2:08 pm: |
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Interesting. I never knew what a foxtail was. I don't think we have those here.
Sorry Mac, didnt meant to come off like that. LOL!! NO big deal anyway. All lice is plain nasty. |
the_mutineer
Registered Member
Username: the_mutineer
Post Number: 587
Registered: 6-2003
Posted From: 216.105.193.31
| | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 1:19 pm: |
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Thanks, Underdog. It's a gift! lol I just love being able to find things for other people. I should have been a research librarian, I guess. 
Doggygirl, not to worry. I'm not overly sensitive, and I didn't take it "like that." Nor will you get any arguement from me that all lice are plain nasty! |
diamondog
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Username: diamondog
Post Number: 1609
Registered: 6-2001
Posted From: 206.231.186.98
| | Posted on Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 6:46 pm: |
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Mac, You are CORRECT! Lice are host specific,...ususally. The vet said the old dog that came in with the brown lice, YES! Doggygirl, they looked like sand, had cattle lice and it was unusual. As I said, the client has 3 other dogs and none of them were infested. Vet said the dogs age and health could have predisposed her, I personally think she is in the habit of rolling where the cattle and goats lay and shed hair. She rolls often and long here even now that she has no more parasites. And lice ARE just plain nasty, not always a case of poor hygiene, but certainly that has an effect. We are all subject to get any kind of nasty crawlie or stickie in our shops, we should be very cautious in commenting about any other groomshops' record. There are dirty shops and clients will see that at once, but a clean shop can indeed host just that "one that got away" and we should respond with positive solutions and never accusations or complaints. |
