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doggygirl (d143-sj101h1-stjh-pdi.attcanada.net - 142.194.205.143)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 1:35 pm: |
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I know we have spoken about this before, but I can't find where,so forgive me for starting a new string. I just wanted to say, I hooked mine up on Sunday. I was sent the diagram a while ago and just put it off, now I am kicking myself. I was sooooooooo thrilled with this. The dogs bath quicker, dry quicker and their coats are so clean and they seem to be a lot thicker. I am so thankful for Judy in Texas!!!! Thank you, thank you!!! I am thinking of advertising this in my yellow page ad, because I am sure no one else in the city has this and I thought it would give me an edge, but I can't think of what to call it. Bowser blaster might scare some folk!!! Any ideas or suggestions would be greatful. Anyone who keeps putting off hooking up the blaster, -stop waiting- hook it up now. It is wonderful and only took me minutes to put together. |
   
Rev (spider-tk023.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.206.183)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2001 - 2:27 pm: |
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How about a "Deep-Massage Bathing System"? |
   
Fidos (66.76.3.232)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 9:10 pm: |
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REV I finally did it! Well actually hubby hooked my bowser blaster up today! BOY OH BOY does this thing work well. I have been telling hubby about it and he finally read the board last night and he was off to get the parts at Home Depot today. I was amazed at how much less shampoo that I used today. The dogs were really clean and it works so fast! Only have one question, do you hold the sprayer right against the dogs skin, or do you hold it back a ways? We found the Ortho sprayer and did the seperate hose for rinsing. Do you think you could mix your conditioner in with your shampoo? Annette |
   
Rev (152.163.213.214)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 10:08 pm: |
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Heehee, I LOVE hearing people rave about that neat gizmo! I usually hold it just far enough away to get a little of a fan-shape to the spray. I'm not sure if the Ortho spray is the same shape as the Green Thumb.. you'll need to use trial and error, I suppose, to find what works best for you. I've never mixed shampoo and conditioner.. doesn't seem logical to me. But I think some groomers do. It only takes a couple minutes to rough-rinse the shampoo out and then go for the conditioner. What are you using for extra bottles with the Ortho? Or is that why you want to mix? You can order extra bottles for that, I know. |
   
Pawser (205.188.197.154)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 10:20 pm: |
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Where can I find the instructions for the bowser blaster? Have looked (or called myself looking) all over and can't find it. Thanks , Pawser |
   
Rev (205.188.193.32)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 4, 2002 - 11:05 pm: |
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Look for the discussion titled "Information on Texas Bowser Blaster" in this topic. I just checked (am getting paranoid! LOL) and it's still there. |
   
Peg (24.222.29.144)
| | Posted on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 5:38 am: |
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Okay, I couldn't find the green thumb sprayer so bought an ortho one.Haven't used it yet but the only difference I can see is that the ortho nozzle is longer and has the spray gun built-in whereas the green thumb you would use a quick connect affair to hook it to a gun. I do have a question tho.... I saw somebody comment that they have a separate hose for rinsing -WHY??? Wouldn't you just set the shampoo rate to "0" on the dial? |
   
Rev (152.163.213.199)
| | Posted on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 6:07 am: |
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Personal preference, Peg. I like a softer, more "flooding" flow for rinsing, so just pop the sprayer off and my rinsing sprayer on when I'm ready to rinse. That way I have only one hose. As for the Ortho, other than some find it less comfortable to use, the big difference is extra bottles for different shampoos/conditioners etc. Ortho you have to order special bottles, not so for Green Thumb. |
   
Peg (24.222.29.161)
| | Posted on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 9:36 am: |
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Well... Hooked up my ortho and I'm almost in love. I found the difference between the ortho and the green thumb -you can change the type of 'stream' on the green thumb with a flick of your fingers almost, with the ortho,you have to switch nozzles. Think I'll keep looking for a greenthumb.Where do you get the spare bottles, Rev? Thanks! |
   
Rev (64.12.103.173)
| | Posted on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 11:37 am: |
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For Ortho bottles, look at your package insert; you should be able to order from them directly. For Green Thumb, just start collecting small dishwashing detergent bottles (talk to your friends!). Those come with 2 different size tops, about half and half, so get the right sized ones. Palmolive bottles are the right size, for example, but Sunlight isn't. Don't get the tall bottles, which will be too heavy and awkward. |
   
Peg (24.222.29.139)
| | Posted on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 5:10 pm: |
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Whoops; I've goofed - the kind of bottle I thought was a green thumb obviously isn't. The bottle I was thinking of is short and fat with an opening on top more like a jar than a dish liquid bottle. |
   
Rev (205.188.197.26)
| | Posted on Friday, April 5, 2002 - 6:31 pm: |
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That's the Ortho type, Peg. Those you'll need to order from the manufacturer. |
   
Puppymom (67.201.227.34)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 6, 2002 - 6:14 am: |
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How about some pictures of the Bowser Blaster. I don't mean drawings, I mean real pictures. I tried to put together one awhile ago and it didn't work out so well. I need to see the real deal. |
   
Rev (64.12.101.159)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 6, 2002 - 8:52 am: |
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That's a good idea! Anyone have some pics? We could do with pics of different setups. I don't have a digital camera so can't help here. |
   
kk (216.201.0.218)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 6, 2002 - 11:26 am: |
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I have some, and sent them to puppymom. Do you want them, rev? You can get them up here, where I am not puter literate enough to do it right. I just have 2- they show how I hooked mine up. |
   
Rev (152.163.207.197)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 6, 2002 - 12:52 pm: |
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Sure, send them to me, and I'll see if I can get them up. |
   
Rev (205.188.193.59)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 7, 2002 - 12:42 am: |
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Here are some, using the Ortho. Note that this is a different setup from Judy's. This is the way I've done mine too, though I use the Green Thumb. And there are other ways!
 
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Liz (209.205.149.143)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 7, 2002 - 9:56 am: |
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Rev, Your Blaster set-up is very similar to mine. Don't you just LOVE those quick-connects? I do something that is a time saver that you might want to try. I like to use a conditioner of some type on all the dogs I do. I like Natures Specialties Remo but I wasn't crazy about how long it took to apply it and then rinse it off. I started putting it in the Blaster, setting it to a very low concentration and using it as a leave in! Works GREAT. What works even better is pouring the Best Shot Plenish in the blaster and adding about 2 oz of Remo. I set this to 8 oz per gallon and use it as a leave in. I've been doing it like this for months and have had only good results. Boy do those mats fly out and boy, does it save a lot of expensive product. Now a question. Has any one dis-assembled their Ortho lid and then re-assembled it? I can never get them to fit back together right. What's the trick? |
   
Rev (64.12.103.167)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 7, 2002 - 10:43 am: |
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Here's KK's setup:
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kk (216.201.0.218)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 7, 2002 - 1:48 pm: |
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Glad you could get this on here. I couldn't ever do it! The hose coming over the top of the tub is going to a pipe in the floor, where the water supply comes out. Then turn the water on, adjust the temp, and turn the shower faucet on, and you are ready to go. The pressure is good, and the blaster works really well. Hubby wanted to bypass the faucet, as it is really too big to put anything on it. So this does very well for me. Just an idea if anyone can't hook up to their faucet. |
   
tilly (152.163.197.56)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 7:28 am: |
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Between the hydro set up and this one we are going for this one now a question with these bottles you put the shampoo in undilluted right? or some dilluted? And how many dogs will a bottle do ????? about???? One more what about a conditioning shampoo for a conditioner? |
   
kk (216.201.0.218)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 8:34 am: |
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Tilly- I put the shampoo in then fill the bottle with water. When the water is turned on and the spraying starts, the diluted shampoo comes right out. You will have to adjust according to need. As far as how many- I have done 3 small dogs with one time of adding shampoo. But it depends on the dogs, what kind of shape they are in, and how dirty etc. I also have soft water, makes it feel soapier- is that a word?? Just fool with it and see what you are comfortable with. I know one thing- it saves water, which is very important to me, as we have a well, and it certainly saves on a ton of shampoo. Can't beat this system. As far as a conditioner, I have also tried that- its ok, but I have added the conditioner to the shampoo also. That has worked fine for me. I also have forgotten and put in the shampoo, and not added the water. That is also ok, but I do prefer to fill the bottle with water after I put the shampoo in the bottle. Hope this helps. |
   
Rev (64.12.103.168)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 11:31 am: |
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The amount of dilution doesn't matter much; it's mostly for making sure the shampoo mix will feed well through the sprayer; you can always adjust the concentration dial to make it right. How long a bottle lasts depends on the bottle and the dogs. The little detergent bottles last several dogs usually, though a big hairy can use it up fast. |
   
Puppymom (67.242.97.106)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 6:06 pm: |
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with all this groomer brilliance, everybody should have a shampoo system. |
   
tilly (205.188.200.155)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 6:39 pm: |
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Thanks for the info we will work on it this week I'll be bugging the big guy till its done LOL! |
   
Bully4me (209.252.192.56)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 9:51 pm: |
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OK, I am going to print up these pics and the directions for building a blaster and take them to my boss. Our sprayer is on its way out, so this may be a good time to spring this on her. We have the type of spayer you have to squeeze to keep the water coming and my hand gets so fatigued sometimes. A couple of questions though. Those snap-on connectors, they attach right to the green thumb sprayer and the rinsing sprayer? And then to bathe, you just spray on shampoo just to penetrate the coat and then rinse. No rubbing or scrubbing? I will let you know how I do with my boss. (I have thought of just sending her to this BB for the info, but then I think, "what if I want to complain about work in the future?" I am sure if she came here to "visit" she would be hooked! Thanks, Camille |
   
Rev (205.188.197.59)
| | Posted on Monday, April 8, 2002 - 10:02 pm: |
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You got it, Camille.. that's all there is to it! My hands thank Judy every day! The Green Thumb sprayer locks on, so no squeezing there; and my rinsing sprayer (Gardena top of the line) has a lock-on position too. It really does eliminate scrubbing--just don't underdo the washing process and time or the shampoo won't have time to lift the dirt and oils. No pre-wetting, and rinsing is a zip. And shame on you! How could you deprive any groomer of our company?? LOL |
   
Luvpuppyo (64.240.52.239)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 2:23 pm: |
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Hi to everyone that has shared their info on the bowser blaster. I just wanted to tell you all a neat story. I have been reading and reading this board for sometime now, and let me say that I have learned so much in the last 6 months, more than 10 years of grooming in the same old shop. One year ago in Febuary, I left the shop I was working in because of groomer burn out. I love grooming dogs so much that I told my husband it would be really nice if I could groom at home. Well, he decided to turn our garage into a shop for me. It is not finished yet, but it will be full of all the great ideas I have learned from all of you. A couple weeks age I was looking on ebay and what do you know, there was a brand new GreenThumb sprayer. I was the only one that bid on it and got it for $1.00 + 4.50 S&H. It came today and I can't wait to use it. I think my big old lab mix will be my first victum. Thanks for posting pictures also, they help. |
   
Rev (64.12.101.166)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 3:16 pm: |
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What a neat story, Luvpuppy! It's so cool to hear that our community is boosting groomers in so many ways! And what luck on the sprayer, too! Best wishes with your nifty new shop and your Bowser Blaster. |
   
tilly (152.163.194.177)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 4:18 pm: |
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Great luvpuppy I always read of groomers starting their own shops or start a mobil and I remember how exciting and scary and fun all together only Wish I had this place then. Gotta admit a pang of jealousy creeps in best of luck with your new shop and ENJOY. OH YEA Hubby bought the stuff for my home made Blaster says he will put it together tommorow this thing better work cause I've kinda shoved it down his throat! LOL |
   
Rev (64.12.101.184)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 6:43 pm: |
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Not to worry, Tilly--it'll be a hit! LOL |
   
Fidos (66.76.3.232)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 6:58 pm: |
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Ok so I have to add my pictures of my Texas Bowser Blaster........East Texas version! LOL! THANKS TO ALL THAT HELPED ME!
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Fidos (66.76.3.232)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 7:04 pm: |
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Well darn that one turned out too big, will try a different pic in a scaled down size. I am using the Ortho Sprayer and I have washer faucets on my tub as you will see in the next pic.
Notice the pressure that I am getting on the dog! Daughter took these pics of me actually using the blaster! |
   
kk (216.201.0.218)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 8:55 pm: |
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Luvpuppy- the very best wishes go out to you on your home venture- there isn't anything like it! I have been at home for 1 1/2 yrs, and wouldn't give it up for anything! I don't think I have ever been this content in my life! Hope the blaster works as well for you as it has for me. And Fidos- great pictures!! Your pressure looks like what I have-ain't it great! And its good to see someone actually using it- that helps a lot to see how it actually works. Good thinking! |
   
Rev (152.163.206.201)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 9:03 pm: |
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Anyone have pics of the Green Thumb version? We have most of the different hookups now, I think. |
   
Thedotteddog (209.142.18.49)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 9, 2002 - 10:51 pm: |
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I do! At least it is very similar. I use a Gilmore sprayer that is just like the Green Thumb. I will get it up tonight as soon as I can download the pics. |
   
Thedotteddog (209.142.18.224)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:29 am: |
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Well, here it is, but it's not a very good pic. I guess I moved the camera. Maybe you can tell something about it anyway.
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tilly (64.12.107.43)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 3:36 am: |
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These pics are great there is one thing I notice all of these have a metal hoses attached small in diameter does this help the pressure???? I'm up early and hubby still snoozing I'm not sure what he bought for the hoses want to wake him and ask but better wait! LOL he really would be upset probably shove the whole blaster down my throat!!! |
   
Rev (205.188.193.33)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 6:30 am: |
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The speed of flow (limited by the incoming water pressure) and the smallest inside diameter of the pipes/hose/connectors leading to the outlet determine the volume that can come through; the size of the outlet controls the pressure that that volume can produce relative to the incoming pressure. |
   
Rovermadeover (202.7.217.5)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 6:36 am: |
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Yeah, Tilly, I thought they (the hoses) looked metallic. It looks so clean and professional. |
   
kk (216.201.0.218)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 6:39 am: |
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Mine are plastic. |
   
tilly (205.188.192.49)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 6:52 am: |
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LOL OMG am I the only one that can't figure out what rev said???? |
   
Lacoquette (142.17.160.126)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 7:24 am: |
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It's called a venturi effect, when a smaller opening requires water (or other) to move faster to go through. |
   
Fidos (66.76.3.232)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 8:07 am: |
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Tilly the metal looking hoses are just washer machine hoses, and they are not metal at all. I know my hubby got them at Home Depot. Annette |
   
Fidos (66.76.3.232)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 8:11 am: |
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Oh I just have to ask.......did any of you actually clean your tubs before taking your pics? I did! LOL! I was about to take the pic and I thought, my this tub could use a little going over before I let the whole world see it! Annette |
   
Rev (152.163.206.203)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:57 pm: |
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If you have higher water pressure you're going to have higher pressure out of the nozzle. The amount of flow is limited by the smallest diameter the water flows through. If there's one narrow spot in a line, that's what determines the volume coming through the entire hose. To prove it, try kinking a garden hose (without nozzle) in the middle and seeing what comes out the end. When the bottleneck is at the outlet of the hose the water will be going faster when it comes out. (Thanks for the term, Lacoquette! ) |
   
Thedotteddog (208.25.49.60)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 2:53 pm: |
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I understood Rev, but I am no way smart enought to explain it! No I did not clean my tub, it looks that way all the time. I hose it down as I groom and just before I go home. Scrub it regularly. My hose is braided metal over something or other ( I think rubber). I got it at the hardware store and It is for washing machines. They come in several lengths. I tried the black rubber ones and they come off black on my hands after a while and have to be replaced more often than these do. |
   
tilly (64.12.105.29)
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Thanks everyone our water pressure is fine so far we are hooked up and I asked the girls and hubby what they think and they like it. I watched looks good just one more pita question. When we are spraying the soap water it seems not as bubbly but it also seem to be doing kind of a rinse at the same time lots of suds in bottom of the tub even if we turn it up. Is that how it is supposed to work?? cause I think this get up is a good thing!!! And rev I think I understand what you so patiently took time to tell me thanks! |
   
Rev (205.188.197.29)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 3:24 pm: |
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You should get only minimal suds--not none, but just a little, when you spray. Suds don't clean, and in fact can interfere with cleaning. Any suds at all means that there's enough or excess shampoo, so you're fine with just a few. The idea is to remove the dirtied water as the shampoo lifts the dirt, so yes, it's half-rinsed as you go. You do need to make sure that shampoo stays on the coat long enough to bond with and lift the dirt, even though you've gone over the whole dog. For suds in the bottom of the tub, when I use a vinegar rinse it helps to get rid of a lot of those, and I've heard that liquid downy does that too. I bathe my dogs on a grate, so they aren't standing in the suds--love that! |
   
Bowwowwheels (165.247.186.53)
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BOWSER BLASTER PARTS!!! There is a hardware store in my area going out of business and they have a bunch of the dial adjuster hose end garden sprayers for sale CHEAP!!! $12.99 and $10 with an extra 25% off of that at check out. If anyone wants one, click on my name to get my email and let me know. I'll purchase and ship to you. Don't know if this is a good price or not but I've seen them for $16+ other places.... And I know some of you have had a hard time finding the right thing to make them with. And I promise I won't make ANY $$$ on shipping |
   
Bully4me (209.252.192.147)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 9:27 pm: |
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Well, I showed the pics to my boss, and I think it's a go! She seems a little doubtful of not having to scrub on the dog, but is willing to try it. We have a sink next to the tub and she came up with the idea of connecting the blaster to the sink and using the sprayer in the tub for the rinse. That should work, right? Camille P.S. Rev, I know, "shame on me", but sometimes we just have to be selfish and take care of ourselves first, right? |
   
P. Williams (209.214.97.134)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 10:53 pm: |
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The "Blaster" is the BEST thing since sliced white bread... Just bought 2 "extras" for backups |
   
Thedotteddog (209.142.19.251)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 11:30 pm: |
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Yes, I agree! All hail Judy! I think we all owe her a large debt of thanks for that one! |
   
Judyintexas (216.119.163.194)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 10:02 pm: |
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Thanks guys, but you don't owe me anything! It wasn't an original invention. All the pieces were on store shelves, I just put them all together. Glad it helps make our day just a little bit easier! |
   
Rev (205.188.201.189)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 10:36 pm: |
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Kahlil Gibran said "The obvious is never that until someone has stated it simply." Inventiveness is a gift, Judy, and you've passed it on to us. |
   
tilly (64.12.105.28)
| | Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 4:46 am: |
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We also have one now and if not for Judy's gift to share we would'nt have one its that simple so thanks Judy! |
   
k9hairfairy (208.245.161.143)
| | Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 4:52 pm: |
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Rev, I didn't think anyone else knew who Kahlil Gibran was!!!! Years (and years!) ago we used to play charades and I'd throw that in the hat just for laughs! |
   
Rev (64.12.103.173)
| | Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 8:26 pm: |
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Years and years? Try "decades and decades"! LOL Bet you won every time on the charades. |
   
k9hairfairy (208.245.179.194)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 12:55 am: |
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Actually, it was decades and decades, but years and years sounds soooooo much better!!!! |
   
Rev (205.188.193.34)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 10:09 am: |
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Aww, I'm sorta beginning to enjoy the "decades" bit. Can't wait to say ".. a century ago when I was a kid .. " LOL |
   
Thedotteddog (208.25.54.151)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 2:52 pm: |
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Ok! Who was Kahlil Gibran? (or is) I know dang well you two aren't that much older than me! |
   
Judyintexas (216.119.162.94)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 6:18 pm: |
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Didn't Kahlil Gibran write "The Prophet"? (If I'm wrong, I'll blame it on my old, tired, memory!!) |
   
Rev (64.12.103.157)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 8:29 pm: |
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Ding-Ding-Ding, the lady wins the Grand Prize!! Yep, Judy, he wrote The Prophet. And Sand and Foam, and a bunch of other books of essays and sayings. Very thoughtful stuff, and beautifully written. He is/was (dunno) a poet-essayist from.. hmm, Iran now? Persia anyway. He was quite popular in the 60's. |
   
Thedotteddog (208.25.49.17)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 - 8:54 pm: |
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Thanks, I guess I have been reading all the wrong stuff! |
   
Ellymae (198.81.16.187)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 2:31 pm: |
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I remember reading Kahlil Gibran. And I always say my dinosaur is parked out back....... |
   
Rev (64.12.101.153)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 3:56 pm: |
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I have the Pterodactyl model.. it flies low!  |
   
Sassysue (205.188.199.183)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 8:38 pm: |
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I don't understand how this method can get a dog clean w/no scrubbing. You just spray the soap on the top of the coat and let it sit? Your not lifting the hair & spraying underneath or something!! I feel like I'm missing something, it can't be this easy! A question on the rinse nozzle, the place I work now needs new nozzle bad! She originally got the hook-up one w/hose for like $60 in NE Serum, she doesn't want to pay that again, all she needs is the nozzle part, can you use a regular garden nozzle, because they say cold water only. What do ya'll do? Thanks, Dawn |
   
Rev (205.188.199.56)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 8:54 pm: |
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The spray is sort of flat and forceful; it goes deep into the coat and massages the skin, gets up the dead coat and dander very nicely. It really works! Yep, it not only can be, but IS this easy. I've been using a $15 or so Gardena garden sprayer for years, and love it. As far as I'm concerned it works better than the expensive pro ones I've tried. I know a lot of shops use regular garden sprayers. I've had no problems with the warm water, or even with hot when I've used it for cleaning. |
   
Sassysue (205.188.196.39)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 9:13 pm: |
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So you just spray & let it sit, then rinse. Nothing else, guess you can tell I'm skeptical;-) How long do you let it sit? It doesn't matter how long or thick the coat is? Actually that probably depends on how long you let it sit. Think I answered my own ?. I believe I read in an earlier post that you dilute the shampoo enough so it comes out the sprayer, it that the only reason? Rev, where would I find a Gardena sprayer? Have you been using the same sprayer for years and if so do you clean it or do you not have a hard water problem? Thanks, Dawn |
   
Rev (205.188.193.51)
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Last answer first..I've been using this same sprayer for years. It could use a cleanout but I can't figure out how to get it apart--a few of the holes are plugged a bit. I just bought a spare and think I'll take this one home and try an overnight vinegar soak to see if it will clear. It's been used mostly in fairly hard water, though not super-hard, though remember I'm not a high-volume groomer any more. Home Depot carries them, and I think some others do too. They're orange and gray. Oh, I forgot to mention--these sprayers are made to use with snap-on connectors, so you'll need one of those too. And an adaptor if your hose isn't garden-hose size. Usually I spray and just keep on spraying, until the shampoo has been on the coat a few minutes total so it has time to bond with and lift the dirt and oils. Besides, the spray is working on the skin and undercoat and doing some straightening, dematting and deshedding all that time! The shampoo is extremely dilute coming out so it doesn't waste that much, and it keeps fresh clean shampoo water going thru the coat. Sometimes I let it sit a bit while I work on getting gunky eyes cleaned, etc. For the thick coats it penetrates immediately right down to the skin, so there's no pre-wetting, no more finding "dry" spots in a dense oily coat, no leaving deep dirt and dander. Rinsing is a breeze, as the shampoo is so dilute. As for dilution, you may find some shampoos that need more dilution to keep suds from getting out of hand even at the lowest concentration setting. I know I have to dilute the Plum Silky or it sudses way too much. All I can say is, try it.. it's priced right. if you don't like it you have a good garden fertilizer sprayer! LOL Would it help if I told you that the Ultra-Wash BathPro 2000 works the same way?  |
   
Hairyterrier (208.180.134.109)
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I'm gonna try out my new Bowser Blaster first thing in the morning. I ended up getting a Hudson brand model 2102 sprayer. Lowe's has them for $8.00. It's a little different from the other brands talked about here. Instead of a big round dial to turn for the different settings, this one has a knob with a pointer, that you turn to indicate the dilution you want. It also has a water only setting. The handle is long enough so that you can hold it only by the handle without touching the hose connection and there's a slide switch on the handle that turns the entire unit on or off. Another really nice feature is the 3 different spray settings. They call one a bullet spray that's kind of like a wide jet spray. It feels like it has a slight pulsating effect. It also has a flat or fan spray and a gentle shower type spray. I'll let ya'll know how it works. |
   
Progroom (65.28.1.218)
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Dawn, I thought the same thing before I put mine together. It works sort of like a car wash. You get LOTS of pressure coming out. It lifts the coat so you are getting to the skin. It did take me a couple baths to get used to it and to get a really clean dog. One thing I have to be aware of is getting ALL the dog with the sprayer. The shampoo mixture alone can't do it, the pressure of the sprayer cleans them. I tend to miss the back of the front legs and underneath right behind the ribs. My favorite place is the pads of the feet. WOW It just blasts all that dirt right out of there. If you don't like it, it was a small investment rather than spending the $$$$$ on the big systems. |
   
Rev (64.12.103.152)
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Hairyterrier, can you give us a pic of yours? I've never seen that kind and it sounds good! We don't have a Lowe's around here. What kind of bottle does it have? |
   
Hairyterrier (208.180.134.109)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 4:35 pm: |
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Here's some scans from the directions pamphlet.
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Hairyterrier (208.180.134.109)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 4:40 pm: |
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As you can see, it has a wide mouth jar container on it. The other drawings show the settings & knob on top and the spray nozzles. I used it this morning and it is absolutely wonderful!!! I'll try to get a photo later of how it's set up in my bathing area. |
   
Rev (205.188.197.57)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 6:59 pm: |
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That does look cool!! I like the sprayer options and the non-mixing setting. Can you get extra bottles from the manufacturer? BTW, here's the eOpinions site reviews and references to several different sprayers. Glad to hear you like it!  |
   
Thedotteddog (208.25.51.44)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 7:26 pm: |
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Cool Rev! On that site you can see the Gilmour sprayer that I have! I love it! It's great! Its light and easy to hold and has a nice pattern. It is a little harder to change the setting, I have to turn it with a paper towel because the dial thingy is metal toothed and hurts my fingers! |
   
Thedotteddog (208.25.51.44)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 7:31 pm: |
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Oh, and the one I have is the professional model. I only paid about 16 bucks for it tho! |
   
kvp (63.69.34.130)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2002 - 10:03 pm: |
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The dotteddog I have that one too and i do love it especially since the little dawn bottles fit on it. BUT I just bought the Ortho dial n spray one at walmart and i like it better it actually is more flooding and goes through less shampoo. It is not at all cumbersum as it looks the only draw back no extra bottles |
   
SlocumRidge (206.148.48.102)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 2:37 pm: |
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I've got the Ortho and I love it BUT ... My water bill doubled and they even tacked a note on it to check for leaks. Am I doing something wrong? |
   
Progroom (65.28.1.218)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 7:43 pm: |
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I'm guessing my water usage is lower as I don't run out of hot water anymore. I always left the water running as I was hand scrubbing. Barb |
   
Rev (152.163.207.211)
| | Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 10:24 pm: |
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SlocumRidge, I think you should check for leaks, unless you were using a recycling washer before. I don't have to pre-wet the dog, and rinsing is much faster. And when I'm shampooing, if I stop to work on a burr or eye/beard gunk the spray shuts off, so I can't think this uses more water than hand-shampooing. |
   
Stacey Murphy (12.225.145.216)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 1:56 am: |
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Ok, the only thing I need is a Green Thumb garden sprayer? My tub is already set up with the hose and conecter thingie at the end that allows me to attach a garden hose sprayer. So I just need to get a Green Thumb, put shampoo and a little water in the bottle, screw it on, and start spraying dog? And just play with the dial to figure out how the concentration works? I also have second hose that I could use for rinsing all ready set up. Wow! Could it be this simple? I mean I have been reading about it and looking at the pictures and it just now hit me. Maybe I am still confused. I don't know. But, I am gonna just go ahead and find a Green Thumb to purchase and try it! I honestly can't imagine this lawn sprayer thing getting the dogs really clean without hand scrubbing. My mind just don't get it. Not the dogs I bathe. Maybe some of them, but not most. What about the Newfies and the Great Pryonese'sp? and the Collies and such? And the nasty cockers and all the other smaller dogs I have to spend time feeling my way through picking and pulling all that gunck out of. I even have this whiteish plastic scrubbie brush I have to use while bathing many dogs to help get the gunk out. Ok, I am sceptical, but so many of you all love this TBB, I must try it! I will call around tommorow and hope to find a place I can buy the Green Thumb from. I will let you know how it works for me! Thanks |
   
Hairyterrier (208.180.134.109)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 2:52 am: |
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I was a little skeptical too at first. Then I figured "what the heck". I'd try it and if it didn't work, then I'd have a nice sprayer for the lawn Let me tell you though, it works! If you can't find the Green Thumb, look for a Hudson brand. It's got a couple of nice features some of the other brands don't have and works great. And it's only about $8 |
   
kvp (63.69.34.21)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 7:31 am: |
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Slocumridge, is your toilet running? That can make your water bill jump. My toilet ran for about 3 weeks until my husband could fix it and it cost me $80 more in water. |
   
slocumridge (206.148.48.128)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:12 pm: |
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Nope, checked the toilet and I checked for leaks elsewhere. don't pre-wet either. I'll keep looking... |
   
Stacey Murphy (12.225.145.216)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 5:34 pm: |
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Boss wouldn't approve the TBB. I still haven't tried it. What we have is a lawn and garden sprayer, I think Melnor could be the brand name. It is grey and green. It is one of them that you twist the front part and can set it to shower, jet, soaker, flat, mist, center, or cone. And you push in the little black thingy and it stays on. Boss uses shower only. Recently, I have found a method of bathing that seems to be working well. I wet dog, cover with shampoo, scrub only a tiny bit and rinse, wash face and rinse, cover dog with lots of shampoo especially on back and neck and upper chest, add some water, scrub for a few minutes, and spray with the flat spray a couple inches from coat, working in a manner that keeps shampoo on coat while flat spraying entire body and feet for several minutes...this is why I have extra shampoo on the back and chest...I start on the back and move down and around and then on the back again as this causes shampoo to run down...same with chest and front of dog and I repeat this cycle untill dog is nearly rinsed, apply conditioner switch back to shower mode and wash face again, then I do the final rinse in the shower mode. I know this sounds like it takes forever, but, the dogs are cleaner and it takes about the same amount of time as I was spending hand scrubbing only. They are not only much cleaner, this also removes dry skin and loose coat. Hope that all made sence. My question is...is the srpay that comes out of the TBB similar to the spray that comes out on a garden hose sprayer set on flat? Thanks! |
   
Rev (64.12.101.151)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 5:50 pm: |
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Yes the spray is flat.. and it works much the way you're doing it now, but without all the extra hassle and time, and uses MUCH less shampoo. Why won't she approve it? Couldn't she at least try it?? |
   
Stacey Murphy (12.225.145.216)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 7:19 pm: |
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Hi Rev! She just thinks that the way she does things is the best and only way. I have to 'sneak' to use the flat spray. I can imagine how much the TBB would save on shampoo. I feel sorta bad about sneaking, but I know it is not hurting the dogs and they are SO much cleaner. I am just waiting for her to ask me what I am doing different, that the dogs are coming out so much nicer. I figure when she asks I will tell her....and explain that the TBB will do the same as well as save on water and shampoo. Hopefully she will then allow me to try the TBB. Stacey |
   
Rev (64.12.103.171)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 7:57 pm: |
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And you want to stay in this place?? The BB could save you a lot of time, which means money in your pocket as well as hers, and it's sure cheap enough. Those 5-20 minutes per dog add up fast! That and the Saturday specials are costing you a bundle, not to mention the wear and tear on you. Is she against HV dryers too? She wants you to do all this work; don't ask--tell her how you intend to do it, and then DO it--or just do it. What is she going to do, fire you? It sure doesn't sound like it. |
   
Stacey Murphy (12.225.145.216)
| | Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 9:06 pm: |
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Rev, will she fire me? I doubt it. But she sure knows how to give me a hard time. Things are actually getting better at my job and I don't want to do anything to upset that. I am thinking I will ease the BB in. I think my plan just may work. She allows me to use my Master Blaster on all dogs now that I found a nozzle that isn't so scarry sounding to the dogs. Yes! That Saturday special has got to go!!! |
   
Mitzi (192.34.35.23)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:46 am: |
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Stacey, Put a quick connect on that hose and invest in a sprayer. Then you can bathe the way you want to, and she can bathe the way you want to. |
   
Tcpet (129.176.151.122)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:44 am: |
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Just want to add my praises about the Texas Bowser Blaster. We are in the process of setting up our grooming shop. Prior to this we were grooming the few customers we have in our own bath tub. Well, Hubby got the new tub and the Bowser Blaster installed. All I can say is WOW! Our first use was on a very dirty, very matted Chow. He turned out terrific. Thanks!! |
   
eliza (63.189.192.89)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 6:31 pm: |
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I have been using the blaster for about 6 mos. and we LOVE it at our shop! My only problem is that in the beginning, I felt like we got a lot more mileage out of the shampoo we put in it. Now it feels like even when I dial the dilution rate down to 1 the shampoo is gone really quickly. Think there is something wrong? |
   
Rev (152.163.206.214)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 7:35 pm: |
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Have you changed shampoos? Shampoos do vary quite a bit in concentration. Is the shampoo pretty sudsy even at "1"? You might want to dilute the shampoo more in the bottle. |
   
kketchum (24.92.161.85)
| | Posted on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 9:06 pm: |
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Having been out of dog grooming for about ten years and I am about to reopen a shop, I have been reading about all the new trends. I have been learning so much on this BB. I think I have one of these Ortho things out in the shed. I can't wait to go try it on my daugthers and my horse. I have a Palomino and she has a very white (but filthy) paint. I'll bet it will work great. Thanks for all the great stuff on this site. Karen |
   
Progroom (65.28.1.218)
| | Posted on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 9:59 pm: |
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My sprayer came with the flat end and another that is like the shower setting on a garden hose sprayer. I'm finding I like the shower one better. It doesn't have as much pressure, so it doesn't soak me as much. LOL It does get them just as clean. Barb |
   
Rev (205.188.197.32)
| | Posted on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 11:19 pm: |
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Which brand do you have, Barb? |
   
Progroom (65.28.1.218)
| | Posted on Saturday, June 1, 2002 - 6:28 am: |
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Oh darn Rev, I just knew someone was gonna ask me that. I haven't any idea, it's at the clinic. I'll try to remember to check on Monday. |
   
Mitzi (192.34.35.23)
| | Posted on Saturday, June 1, 2002 - 10:45 pm: |
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kketchum, I would use a 'fresh' sprayer, not one that has been used for spraying something else. Just too risky. |
   
Poppie (216.189.80.148)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:10 am: |
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I love my new TBB. But have a couples questions for you out there. I feel like I am using to much sampoo. I get the gallon conentrate sizes. I use the ortho sprayer. So how much sampoo should I be useing. I hooked up a pump to my gallon bottles but feel I just keep adding and adding and during the dolution up. How much do you doulote the sampoo. My spelling is not so good so I say sorry now. Please help. Thanks |
   
Rev (152.163.207.201)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 10:49 am: |
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Spray the shampoo mix into your hand.. you should get just a little bit of sudsing. If you get much suds your mix isn't diluted enough. One thing.. when you're used to using concentrated shampoo and rubbing it on the coat, you can feel the sudsiness. With the TBB it won't feel like that at all unless you use way way too much shampoo. SUDS DON'T CLEAN! The bubbles actually interfere with the cleaning. Suds are just the bubbles from the unutilized shampoo--waste, in other words. If you think the mix is too dilute, try holding the spray on the same spot for a bit.. it will "thicken" up and suds more, telling you you really are getting shampoo on the coat. But you just have to get used to the different "feel". I just put a few ounces (pumps) of concentrate into the mix bottle, fill it with water, set the dial at the lowest setting, and go. Sometimes I have to adjust the dial up a notch or two, but that's rare. And my dogs get super clean. |
   
Poppie (216.189.80.148)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 11:01 am: |
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REV thanks so much The feel is very differnt. Not as soapy of a feel. Should I leave it on the oz side of the dial or the tbs side. And just a few pumps of the gallon. Because I have been putting 5 or even 10 pumps. I feel like a dummy wasting a lot. I will put a few pumps then fill with water and set dial and leave in the same spot for a while and I need to see sudes and soap and That should be fine. I am I write. |
   
Rev (64.12.101.171)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 1:45 pm: |
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I don't have the Ortho, but the Green Thumb. All it has is tbsp, and I keep it on the lowest setting. You need to see only a few bubbles of suds, to be sure it's getting shampoo through it. Don't worry about the feel. When rinsed (without conditioners) it should be squeaky clean. I forgot to mention, be sure it stays on the coat long enough for the shampoo to bond and lift the dirt and oils--a few minutes. Like doing laundry, you don't just get clothes wet with soapy water and then rinse right away, give it time. |
   
Poppie (216.189.80.148)
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I have been using oz. No wonder I have been going thru the sampoo. Thanks. I have to remind my self to let it sit for awhile also. Thanks for the tip. I am still looking for a greenthumb also. |
   
Rev (64.12.101.171)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 15, 2002 - 2:41 pm: |
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I think the Ortho is just fine, according to those who are using it. But I don't know how you even saw the dogs through all the suds! LOL Letting it set on the coat is no problem with larger dogs.. it takes long enough to go over them thoroughly once or twice or three times anyway. It's the little ones that it's awfully tempting to cut short on time! So do I do a bit of dematting, nail clipping, eye cleaning, whatever, while it soaks, go over again, then rinse. |
   
Snikkerdoodles (216.189.136.31)
| | Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 4:24 pm: |
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okay, so I have a question. I have hooked up a "Bowser Blaster" shampooer, but the hose my hubby hooked up for me is a really stiff home made hose that he made from scratch at the hardware store. Where can a person find a really flexible hose that works off of a regular hose end?? |
   
Rev (152.163.189.173)
| | Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 5:08 pm: |
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Some garden hose is more flexible; marine hoses for boats, the metallic washing machine hoses.. Look at various hoses in a big home improvement store. I'm currently using a metal washing machine hose. |
   
kk (209.143.10.93)
| | Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2002 - 8:04 pm: |
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I got my hose at a Tractor Supply. Its a clear hose with a reinforced string inside- at least it looks like string. Its very flexible. It sells by the foot. Just can't remember the correct name for it- the senior brain is really kickin in tonight! |
   
Twiggy
| | Posted on Sunday, February 9, 2003 - 3:12 pm: |
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I got my bowser blaster!! I LOVE IT! Great for long hair dogs short hair dogs big dogs little dogs NOT GOOD ON CATS LOL!!
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Twiggy
| | Posted on Sunday, February 9, 2003 - 3:15 pm: |
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The hoses on the left are the blaster. They go under my table and into the tub when I need them. I coulnt hook them up in the tub being as the tub does not have the right kind of hook up. |
   
Twiggy
| | Posted on Sunday, February 9, 2003 - 3:17 pm: |
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oops the hoses on the right are the blaster. Thanks for such a great idea. I LOVE THIS BOARD!! |
   
Puppiepaws
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I must of missed this.I am sure glad i found it, this is what I have been looking for to help the shampoos last longer.I use Groomers Edge it is very thick .will it clog up the blaster.Do you use one for cream rinse and another for shampoo? What great info on this board. |
   
Twiggy
| | Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 4:42 pm: |
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I do but they are only 9.oo at Wally world and will last well longer than the cost so buy 3 or 4!!!! |
   
Rev
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 11, 2003 - 10:54 am: |
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If the shampoo/conditioner is too thick, or produces too many suds, just dilute it in the bottle. I usually fill the bottle about 1/8 with shampoo concentrate, the rest water. |
   
stephanie
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I built one, but I have to say that I prefer my homemade recirculator. |
   
rev
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 1:38 pm: |
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After using a Hydrosurge in Montana, along with Blasters, I have to say that I like both, or either, depending on the situation. The Blaster is quick, easy, no setup/no cleanup equipment. The Hydrosurge to supplement it for prolonged bathing or larger dogs made a great "team". Both clean exceptionally quickly and well. These dogs, very unused to bathing and handling, seemed no more spooked by one than the other. Considering the cost and convenience, I'd "pump" for a Blaster first, then a recirculating washer as funds permit, to use on some dogs as you prefer. Both save a lot on shampoo, and water too, but the recirculating washers save more water on larger dogs. |
   
katies
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Okay, I have tried the 'blaster' before; loved how it got shampoo right into the thickest of coats, and then was really easy to lather afterward, but... I find that the Ortho ones break so fast! WHY? (sob) Does anyone else have this problem? The plastic attachment thingies just start spraying everywhere and then that's IT. They are not really cheap, either, considering they are just a plastic piece of ****. I had my husband put it together, with the brass quick connects and a thick automotive-type hose. No problems with that stuff just the Ortho sprayer. ?????????????????? I also went through shampoo really fast if I used them for every dog, and I found that just my handling the thing, depressing the trigger, and unscrewing the reservior(very awkward) caused wear and tear quickly. Any suggestions? I really do want to have the option for those big hairies. Also, anyone heard of that OTHER hydrosurge-type system? Is it more affordable? I think Hydrosurges are SO overpriced although useful; they really must love getting a THOUSAND DOLLARS for that thing! I mean really! Help me out here guys, Love ya! Katie |
   
rev
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Katie, I like my "Green Thumb" blaster--other manufacturers make that type too. It's sturdy (I never had one break), and lighter if you use small detergent bottles for the shampoo. The spray lever locks so you don't have to keep it depressed. They're cheap; if you get several you can keep them loaded with different shampoo/conditioners, saving all that screwing and unscrewing. As for using too much shampoo, are you keeping the concentration low for minimal suds? When you spray it into your hand, you should see just a few suds, not a lot. More suds are not good, and actually may interfere with cleaning. If needed (and I almost always need to) dilute the shampoo in the bottle. On most dogs I end up using an ounce or two of shampoo at most, about the same as with a recycling washer. The big hairy ones use more, of course, just because of acreage, and that's where the recycling washers can save. In Montana with terribly neglected collie coats, I learned to like the combination of Blaster and Hydrosurge--the force of the Blaster was very good at penetrating to the skin quickly and separating dirt and matts, and once the tub had enough sudsy water in it the Hydrosurge continued the cleaning and dematting as long as we needed without adding to the lather. There are ways to make your own recirculating washer at minimal cost; instructions are on the board here. And there are competing vendors as well. Check into the discussions under Recirculating Washers. |
   
hairyterrier
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I like my Hudson sprayer. Further up about halfway in this thread, I posted some pics I scanned from the instructions that show the different features. It has 12 settings plus water only and it has 3 different spray nozzle settings, shower, jet & spray as well as a thumbswitch that turns the water on or off. It costs $8 at Lowe's. With the first one I bought, I had a problem with the thumbswitch that shuts the water on & off. I know that it was because of the hard water we have here. I called the manufacturer though and they sent me 2 free replacements! I use my TBB on every dog that comes in and it has really made a difference. Dogs that require a specialty shampoo like a whitening or grease desolving shampoo, get bathed first with the TBB with my general use shampoo. Then I'll apply the second shampoo and bath by hand. When using it, I fill the jug with the shampoo diluted 50/50 with water, then I use the next to lowest setting on the dial. It cuts my shampoo use down to almost nothing and the dogs still get squeaky clean. If I get a dog in that has a lot of natural oils in its coat, (like a German Shepherd) I'll bump the knob up 2 notches, but my usual setting is the next to lowest.
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niki_rickett
| | Posted on Saturday, March 8, 2003 - 3:44 pm: |
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I finally borrowed a digital camera from a friend. Here's my set up for the TBB...(Keep your fingers crossed)
NIKI |
   
rev
| | Posted on Saturday, March 8, 2003 - 6:36 pm: |
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The picture files must be too big, Niki. |
   
paws01
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don't u use more water that way? i use a 1-2 gallon yard sprayer. so that way im using water only when i get the dog wet.OMG!! i get it. this way u don't have to wet the dog first before u shampoo. im going to try this thanks girls!!! shana. |
   
rev
| | Posted on Saturday, March 8, 2003 - 9:44 pm: |
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Since the shampoo is so dilute it also rinses out much faster, Shana, saving water that way too. And because you don't have massive suds to get rid of, you can go straight from shampoo to conditioner without rinsing between (except for leave-in conditioners). |
   
niki_rickett
| | Posted on Sunday, March 9, 2003 - 2:13 am: |
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Yeah Rev...wayyyyy to big, I'm borrowing a program tomorrow to resize the pic's. Then I'm gonna be a posting demon!!!LOL Look for me! :-) NIKI |
   
Underdog (Unregistered Guest)
| | Posted on Sunday, March 9, 2003 - 9:29 am: |
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Gosh I have the Ortho Sprayer & haven't had a problem with anything breaking! I've been using it since August. I LOVE it! Can't find Green Thumb or the other ones listed here. Are you throwing it against the wall, Katie? LOL
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niki_rickett
| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 8:46 pm: |
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OK.....I'm gonna try to post my first pic.s (ever) of my TBB. If those work, maybe I'll head over to critques and post my blurred pic.s of some grooms. Wish me luck!
Crossing fingers |
   
niki_rickett
| | Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 8:56 pm: |
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Holy $&!^ it worked....I'm off to post pic's... Woo Hoo!!! NIKI |
   
Arlett (Unregistered Guest)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 10:14 am: |
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Hello' My name is Arlett, and I live in the Netherlands and found a ortho type of sprayer(from asef gardenfertiliser.).But it has not a dial or such on it. The tank is a little big for my hand (RSI) and I was wondering is there anyone thrying to lengthen the hose? I am working on it because with the hydro-surge you have a small sprayer, away from your shampoo supplier( I know use a gardena to fluss the dogs)to wash the dogs with. The problem is when I put the tank down and hold it still there is no soap coming from it . Any ideas? why, do you have to move it to get the soap out? And don't you get wrist problems holding it like that? And when I hold it half side turned or upside down it emptied very fast.Do you always hold it straith up? Thanks and hoping to hear from you,I love this site very informative. |
   
rev
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Arlett, it sounds as if your sprayer isn't working right. You shouldn't have to hold it upside down--in fact, the ones I've used wouldn't work upside down. Barb (Progroom) has rigged a device that hooks up just below the faucet, to draw the shampoo from jugs, the way the UltraBathPro2000 works. See if you can find that in one of these strings--then the sprayer is well away from the shampoo supply. If I weren't so lazy I'd probably do that too. |
   
progroom
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It's called a siphon mixer (a google search finds it in several places to buy one) It was about $15. I did have a hard time finding a sprayer that would get that siphon going. I don't have great water pressure so maybe that was part of the problem. I have a TBB at the clinic and the mixer below here. I prefer the mixer. My only complaint was how hard it was to get the right sprayer. I keep the shampoo and conditioner jugs right there in the tub and then just switch the siphon hose when I need to change between the two. Barb
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Arlett (Unregistered Guest)
| | Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 1:48 pm: |
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Thanks, Those photo's are really helpfull. You have two hoses one for shampoo mix and the other for clean water . Right ? Barb Mine is working fine but a little heavy for my hand. BTW I washed my kerry blue in Phantene shampoo and conditioner for silky hair and he smelles very nice, I have a bad cold but boy could I smell this fresley washed dog. Something to consider when the fragances disappear....use human shampoo. |
   
niki_rickett
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Arlett, If you look at my pic's above, you'll see that I only have one hose. I have a shut off valve on the faucet and quick connectors on the hoses and canisters and one on my sprayer. I didn't like the idea of two hoses, so this is an option. NIKI |
   
progroom
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For the siphon mixer, you really need 2 hoses. You'd have to pull the small siphon hose out of the shampoo, then run the water to flush out any suds before rinsing. Well I guess you could have 2 hoses but only have one attached at a time. Maybe with a quick connect?? Barb |
   
kketchum
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I got my siphon mixer yesterday. I have a question though. The only thing that would make you think that there is any shampoo is very slight bubbles. It doesnt feel soapy at all. Is that correct? The TBB is too heavy on my wrists and I find it awkward. I am really hoping this is the answer. Thanks for another great tip. |
   
progroom
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I do get lots of suds. (wrong I know but I like them lol) It sounds like you're not getting the siphon you need. I had to try 4 different sprayers before I got one that worked on the 'shower' setting. Keep trying, you'll know. It also sucks up the shampoo fast enough that you should see it go down. That's another indicator that it's pulling it up to the hose. Oh I just remembered. I was able to get the siphon going with no sprayer on at all. Try that so you know what it should look/feel like. Barb |
   
rev
| | Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 10:00 am: |
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One of the things I like about the TBB is the low suds.. making it much easier to rinse and cleaning faster. When I'm not sure if I'm getting enough suds I spray into my hand and should see a few suds. Or spray the same spot on the coat for a bit and see if the suds build up, which they should. And I'd rather buy less shampoo, than more! My concern with the siphon pump is that the shampoo/conditioner often is pretty thick, especially the conditioner. I have to dilute even the shampoo for it to work in my TBB. I really don't want to get into mixing up gallons of diluted shampoo. Is that how you do it, Barb? |
   
progroom
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I do mix a bottle of shampoo and a bottle of conditioner. I only use one kind, well I keep a bottle of tearless for hand washing faces, so I'm not changing them out all the time. I am using a lot less shampoo in the mix. It doen't quite make sense really because it adds more water is it comes through the sprayer. My dogs are very clean so it's working. Ok, I just went down and measured. I use about 2 oz of shampoo to a gallon of water. That dilution has worked on every shampoo I've used, even if the directions said differently. I don't get major suds, but I do get some. The dogs rinse easy so it's not hindering me too much. Even easier with the Quadruped shampoo too! Barb |
   
kketchum
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Thanks, I will give it another try tomorrow. I was using shampoo that dilutes 32-1. So I put a cup in a gallon so when it when through the mixer it would be 16-1. I guess that is too thick still to go through the hose even though it didnt look too thick. I think I have the same sprayer you do. It has several settings, shower, cone, flat etc. It is even yellow like yours, came from Home Depot. |
   
progroom
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I don't think it's the thickness of the shampoo. I think it's more in the water pressure. I can pull up undiluted shampoo with it. I can get it to work with some sprayers on other settings, just not the shower that I wanted. I still think it's worth the effort to find one that works. Barb |
   
kketchum
| | Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 10:42 am: |
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It must be the sprayer, I used it without the sprayer and it worked great. I have good water pressure so that shouldnt be a problem. What kind of sprayer did you get. |
   
paws01
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OOOOMMMGGGG GIRLS!!!!! i just used my new tbb this morning and i looooove it. why did i not know about this earlier. i have been grooming for 16 yrs and never seen this ever. thank you sooo much!!!!! shana, |
   
progroom
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I have no idea what sprayer I have. I bought one of every kind they had when I noticed that I could get it to work on some settings and not others. My plan was to return the ones I didn't use. I still have a bag of them downstairs.... lol Barb |
   
kketchum
| | Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 3:58 pm: |
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Thanks Progroom, I just used it using my thumb to make the spray. This was such a good tip, I love it. |
   
progroom
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I tried using it without a sprayer but my water pressure just isn't good enough. I'm so glad you like it. Barb |
   
paws01
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i used mine fore the first time today and all dogs are clean. mine is a dial one i can control the amount of shampoo i whant. i bathed a malmute today and put 8oz. of shampoo and when i was done i had 6 0zs left. this is so going to save me money. thank you all so much. shana |
   
diana
Registered Member Username: diana
Post Number: 22 Registered: 4-2001 Posted From: 205.188.209.135
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O.K. I have a question If my shampoo says to dilute 1cup per. gal. of water isn't that how the setting on the sprayer should be set? If I am reading correctly on the hudson sprayer you are setting it so that it sprays at a 1 1/2 tablespoons per. gal. of water? Help? |
   
rev
Moderator Username: rev
Post Number: 5862 Registered: 1-1999 Posted From: 152.163.253.40
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Each shampoo will be a little different, and the water will affect what's needed too. I ignore the manufacturer's recommended dilution rates, but adjust the concentration according to the results. Ideally the sprayer should produce very light suds when sprayed into your hand. Used correctly, this is plenty of shampoo, and the dog will be squeaky clean. If this notion bothers you, think of the recirculating washers, that use only an ounce or so of shampoo for a tub of water. That works too. |
   
hairyterrier
Registered Member Username: hairyterrier
Post Number: 303 Registered: 2-2002 Posted From: 208.180.24.186
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I have the Hudson sprayer and the shampoo I use has instructions to dilute 1 part shampoo to 8 parts water. I dilute my shampoo 50/50 with water in the jug then set it at 1 or 1.5 tsp setting on the sprayer knob. With this setting, I still get enough suds and the dogs get squeaky clean.
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aussiedawgs
Registered Member Username: aussiedawgs
Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2003 Posted From: 204.227.220.131
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I will be going mobile in the next 4 to 6 weeks, boy do I have a project for my Hubby today! I want one for the house for my dogs and if it works it is going out to the grooming salon on wheels!! Lisa |
   
poochluvr (Unregistered Guest)
Registered Member Posted From: 4.42.40.7
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Lisa, I understand that the homemade hydrosurge works better in mobiles than the Bowser Blaster. You need excellent water pressure for the Blaster to work properly. |
   
aussiedawgs
Registered Member Username: aussiedawgs
Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2003 Posted From: 204.227.220.131
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poochluvr, where could I find information on this homemade hydrosurge? I am still going to try a TBB in my home for my Aussies! That just sounds too cool! Thanks! Lisa |
   
poochluvr (Unregistered Guest)
Registered Member Posted From: 206.53.226.4
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Lisa, look under Recirculating Washers under Bathing Equipment and Systems. There is a thread called How to Build A Power Washer. I could also email some info that has been shared with me. |
   
aussiedawgs
Registered Member Username: aussiedawgs
Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2003 Posted From: 204.227.220.92
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OH MY! I bought an Ortho thingie and hooked it up today to give it a try and HOLLY COW! This is really awesome! I was really impressed and it only took like, 10 minutes to wash, rinse and towel dry my dog! Whew! Whoever invented this needs a GIANT GOLD STAR! Lisa |
   
ries2003
Registered Member Username: ries2003
Post Number: 12 Registered: 8-2003 Posted From: 68.62.196.145
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I have the solution for any problems that the blaster or recycling units may pose. Purchase a transfer pump 1/4 horsepower and in minutes u will have a recycling tub for shampooing and the power to blast off undercoat. No worry about water pressure anymore with this pump. Does not set in the water at all. I posted more on this under "transfer pump" check it out if you havent built any system yet and you will be amazed. No need to fret over sprayers either as any sprayer will react to the power of the transfer pump. |
   
nell
Registered Member Username: nell
Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2003 Posted From: 209.142.137.32
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Got a question about the TBBS! How do I get the water not to hit me in the face. When ever I am spraying and washing the dog. Most time I feel I am taking a bath along with the dog. The water comes out and sprays the dog and flys back and wets me. I even held the sprayer at least 6 inches from the dog and still get the same problem. Thanks, |
   
rev
Moderator Username: rev
Post Number: 6215 Registered: 1-1999 Posted From: 152.163.253.40
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If you mean the water is splashing back from the dog, just angle the water so it's not pointed straight at the dog, but splashing off toward the dog's rear or downward, into the tub and surround. Think about washing a sidewalk.. you don't point the hose straight downward or it would splash straight up all over you. And you don't want to drive the dirt into the skin, you want to wash it away. |
   
Katherine Bryce (Unregistered Guest)
Registered Member Posted From: 209.179.168.53
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Oy. I was referred to this site by a poodle list; I was curious because I've heard of the Hydrosurge, but couldn't figure out how it would work. Now, seeing the pics of the BB, I get the picture. I even used one once, at a friend's grooming shop. didn't think much of it, either. For many years, I worked as a mobile groomer in a van we cobbled together "b'guess or b'golly". When we got the second van, we refined things a bit. I used to do 6-10 dogs a day from start to finish, often including an SP but seldom more than two a day. I carried a plastic 55-gallon barrel filled each morning with warm water and used a small kitchen faucet to wash dogs. I never prewetted a dog! I used a Dawn dish detergent bottle filled with a mix of water, Dawn and vinegar straight on a dry dog. They always soaped up well, rinsed quickly and came very clean. Even now that I'm not grooming professionally anymore, I still do that because it works. I mention the above because I was totally underwhelmed with the Hydrosurge, probably the only person in the world who thinks they are overrated. My admittedly dirty, greasy, stinky SP (she got out of a friend's yard and went missing for a whole day!!!) not only did not clean well in the thing, she remained stinky AND sticky until I bathed her again at home my regular way, which took less time, water and soap than that Hydrosurge did. What on earth were they doing wrong that it worked so poorly? Or have I been sitting on a grooming goldmine and never knew it all these years? LOL Great site, by the way. I've visited several times and I'm always impressed by the quality of information here! |
   
progroom
Registered Member Username: progroom
Post Number: 2179 Registered: 2-1999 Posted From: 66.142.40.53
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It takes most people a bit to figure out how to use the bathing systems properly. It's not uncommon for someone to get not so great results the first couple of times. I think the biggest mistake is that people assume if there's suds on an area, it's been cleaned. When hand washing that is usually the case, you've scrubbed the area already therefor there's shampoo there. With the shampoo systems, the pressure is high enough to have suds run down the dog. It's not so much the suds that clean, it's the pressure of the spray. So if you start at the bottom and work your way up (less shampoo dripping down onto unwashed areas) and make sure that spray touches the skin, EVERYWHERE, you should have great results. It is time saving, shampoo saving and the best yet, hand saving. Barb
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greeneyesnbama
Registered Member Username: greeneyesnbama
Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 65.4.12.92
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If your are looking for extra containers to fit the Hudson try the (EAST of the Rockies) 48 oz Helman's mayo jar it is light weight and fits perfectly. If you are WEST of the Rockies, if I remember correctly from my Phoenix days the product is called Best ---arrgh, wouldn't you know I'd forget in the middle of typing it, oh well it is the mayo who's brand name starts with Best. So far that is the only container I've found that fits. If any one has found more please let me know. |
   
thepurplepoodle
Registered Member Username: thepurplepoodle
Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.1.45.209
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It is Best Foods on the west coast. Deanne |
   
mikey
Registered Member Username: mikey
Post Number: 34 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: cpe-024-211-122-044.sc.res.rr.com
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Pet owner gets set up with TBB :-) Today I bought the Ortho and the Hudson sprayers. Wanted to get a close look at both. I see some trade offs to each of the, but have yet to put either of them to the test. I'm in the process of getting some pro groomer tools for stepping up the care of my pyr Joey .. I hope to place my order within the next week. Here's my questions: Since I'm a pet owner and starting out with some of this stuff I'm not ordering gallons of shampoo. So I've order a sample pak of Best shot. The shampoo and conditioner is only 16oz. So I assume that it IS NOT a concentrate. So, when I put some in the TBB, how much should I use :-) I've read (several times) Rev's suggestions/recommendations on how to determine if you have the correct dilution ratio. So is it just trial and error, where's the best mix to start with? What about the conditioner ? apply the same way ? same mix ration ? Thanks ! Mikey Couple more questions How long (many washings) will one fill up of the Ortho bottle last ? How much shampoo (number of oz's) (non concentrate type) will be required to put into the bottle ? So if I only have 16 oz of shampoo to beging with, I'll have more than enough to do one washing on my Great Pyrenees, Right ?? Thanks Again, Mike (Message edited by mikey on October 14, 2005) |
   
wattadog
Registered Member Username: wattadog
Post Number: 553 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: craigwatt.plus.com
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Mike~ just checked and the shampoo/conditioners are consentrated (most pro shampoos are, even in the smaller sizes) I use Kelco which is a much higher dilution ratio(32/1) & use 1/2 to 1 ounce per dog. since the best shot is less concentrated I would sugest starting with about 2 ounces, and then add more if you need. you should be able to get 5-8 washes out of that I would think. |
   
mikey
Registered Member Username: mikey
Post Number: 43 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: cpe-024-211-122-044.sc.res.rr.com
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wattadog -- THANKS so much for checking that out for me !!!!!!!! I appreciate your taking time to do that for me !! I'm sure that will reduce my trial and error ratios a great deal. Thanks again ! Mike |
   
kk (Unregistered Guest) Registered Member Posted From: 1cust3603.an2.det15.da.uu.net
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When I use Best Shot in my Ortho, I think its about 1/4 cup, not real sure. I use the highest setting for dilution, which says 8 oz. That usually gets me what I want. I do have a lot of water pressure, and my water is soft, I do think I could lower the rate to 6 oz. Get the same effect. I have also used an entire bottle of diluted shampoo on my bigger dogs, like GSD, Gr Pyrs, etc. Otherwise, yes, about 5-8 washings, and the dogs are CLEAN!! Its a great system, you will love it, esp the cost! LOL! I fill the bottom of the bottle, maybe that is a better way to say it, its not quite 1/4 cup. |
   
mikey
Registered Member Username: mikey
Post Number: 50 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: cpe-024-211-122-044.sc.res.rr.com
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OK KK, Thanks for the tips !! I was sorta thinking that it might take close to the entire jug for my pyr. I have used the miracle grow for the plants and have an idea how long it takes for the hose to drain that jug ... should be about the same amount of time for the TBB with shampoo for the pooch ... Well, heck, it's cheap enough, so I'm sure after a couple of washing I'll have it figured out. I'll post my findings here, maybe it'll help someone else :-) Our water is 'sorta' soft. We don't need a water conditioner, but it's not so soft that you can't wash the soap off your body in the shower ... man I HATE that !!! I'll try the 6oz setting. Then I'll try Rev's suggestions (using some old cheap shampoo) about looking for suds .... this will give me an idea, while I realize that it will be different too when I change it out and put the Best Shot in there. Thanks for all your help !!!!!! Mikey |
   
hairyterrier
Registered Member Username: hairyterrier
Post Number: 714 Registered: 2-2002 Posted From: ip70-179-154-249.dl.dl.cox.net
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I love my Bowser Blaster too and as seen earlier in this thread, I much preferred the Hudson sprayer. Well, no more, unless you can still find any of the yellow ones. A few months ago, they changed the sprayer. Basically it looks the same except for the color which is now blue. But the new blue ones aren't worth crap! I don't know what they did to them, but they don't work near as well as the old ones, they wear out quickly and the knob on top has fallen off every one of the blue ones I've bought. If you see any of the older yellow ones, buy them! Otherwise, buy an Ortho. |
   
mikey
Registered Member Username: mikey
Post Number: 52 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: cpe-024-211-122-044.sc.res.rr.com
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Thanks for that HT ! I bought an Ortho and Hudson. I see that the spray nozzle on the Ortho can be turned to any angle you need/want for washing. Which you can't do with the blue hudson. So here's what I was thinking ... use the Ortho for washing .... use the Hudson for my conditioner. Think that'll work alright ? Since I'm just a pet owner I don't have a large need for a lot of different shampoos and don't have multiple jugs for the ortho. If I had multiple jugs for the ortho ... how could I seal the unused portions until the next bath ? Thanks, Mike |
   
hairyhound
Registered Member Username: hairyhound
Post Number: 90 Registered: 1-2004 Posted From: c-24-11-177-21.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
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I've been real happy with the Gerry Baker sprayers. You get three for around 20$. And no long nozzle to get in the way. |
   
progroom
Registered Member Username: progroom
Post Number: 2913 Registered: 2-1999 Posted From: adsl-67-65-63-141.dsl.ksc2mo.swbell.net
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I was too lazy to read the entire thread so this may have been covered. Mike, remember when using the TBB that it is not the suds that clean, it's the power of the sprayer. You want to make sure the spray is hitting all the way to the skin and getting ALL the skin ALL over her body. For me, I find it most efficient to start washing at the bottom and working my way up. By starting at the top, the suds flow down the dog and it's hard to know just where you sprayed and where you didn't. Also be sure get the insides of the legs, armpits, underneath, etc. Barb |
   
pasobrio
Registered Member Username: pasobrio
Post Number: 745 Registered: 8-2005 Posted From: 67.64.42.94
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I use a recurculating washer to bathe, and since it is coat blowing season and I would be using lots of NS Remo I decided to get a ortho bottle and try the bowser blaster with it. My question is, I want the coat to be slippery to HV the undercoat or matts out so how much remo should I put in the bottle, and what setting should I use? I have a Husky, and a Sheltie coming in tomorrow. Also has anyone tried the Furminator solution in one of these and had good results, or do you have to use it at full dilution rate for it to work? |
   
nakedbacon
Registered Member Username: nakedbacon
Post Number: 159 Registered: 7-2002 Posted From: 209.196.227.91
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I finally got my TBB set up. I am using the Ortho Dial-A-Spray with a hot-water safe garden hose. I am running the hose from my kitchen sink to the bathtub (about 12 ft away). So far, I have been using the sprayer on setting '15' but I'm not sure what it means LOL... It seems to suds up the dogs well enough. I turn the dilution setting to OFF so it will spray just water when I need to rinse. I've been rinsing partially, then using a solution of a 20oz bottle of water with one Bounce sheet in it. (never using this on the face/head) I think use a full rinse with the sprayer. It's cutting down my 'bathing' work by at least 80 percent. I have used shampooing systems at PS but this is better for me here in my house and it was wayyyy affordable. Anyone who has a home shop and doesn't have their own bathing system, this is a good option and it doesn't cost over 30$. btw, I have found that I've been using more shampoo than normal, but I also think this has to do with me 'playing' around with the system. I figure in time I will get the settings down pat. Anyway, just wanted to offer my two cents! |
   
magnolia
Registered Member Username: magnolia
Post Number: 1818 Registered: 7-2000 Posted From: 24.175.110.27
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??? Bounce sheet in a 20 oz bottle of water? Did I miss somethin? lol |
   
annie_in_ny
Registered Member Username: annie_in_ny
Post Number: 738 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 68.237.190.222
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the bounce can act as a conditioner I think, and reduce static. I use softern to de foam too |
   
summercavalier
Registered Member Username: summercavalier
Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 67.43.70.19
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Hi, I am trying to find the green thumb sprayer that is talked about for the TBB??? I can not seem to find the correct one so can someone send me the link or a picture? Thank you so very much.... ~Summer |
   
progroom
Registered Member Username: progroom
Post Number: 3273 Registered: 2-1999 Posted From: 68.93.11.17
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I have a hard time finding sprayers. It seems they have a lot of them in the spring. As summer ends they don't always restock them. The last ones I bought were K-Mart brand. They work just fine. I think I've seen them come in a package with Miracle Grow too. Barb |
   
hairyhound
Registered Member Username: hairyhound
Post Number: 112 Registered: 1-2004 Posted From: 67.177.87.24
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I like the Jerry Baker brand. They come in a 3-pack. You should be able to pull up info on line. |
   
sandy
Registered Member Username: sandy
Post Number: 1043 Registered: 6-1999 Posted From: 75.1.20.140
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I know this is an old thread, but I am about to have my husband build me a TBB. I have a question about heads/faces/beards, what do you do then? I can't imagine blasting away- or are there settings to go to low or something? I have never used a shampoo system of any kind so I am a rank beginner in this department. But that's what I love about this board- no question is considered stupid!! I also have a question about storing the spray bottles (I want several so as to save refilling, etc) I am picturing a rack of some kind above the tub. Any ideas? Pictures would be great! I can figure anything out if I have a picture! lol One more thing: if your shampoo dilutes at 16:1, about how much would you put in the sprayer? I am excited about this as a time/shampoo/water saver, but most of all, a HANDS saver, as it is getting more and more painful to scrub the BIG dogs, even with a Zoom Groom or something similar. |
   
kkohio
Registered Member Username: kkohio
Post Number: 516 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 63.27.182.154
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Sandy- the sprayer that I got is a regular garden sprayer. It has several settings on it. I use the mister or else a lower spray for faces. Works great. I don't know about the dilution, I have very soft water due to my water softener, so I just put shampoo in the bottom, and try it. LOL! The shelf for all the bottles is a good idea. I am about to get hubby to do that, too, so I don't have to keep the bottles on a table right by my tub. I love my TBB- and yes, it IS a hand saver. I haven't had any problems with mine- its a wonderful invention!! The drawback is that I go thru a lot of the sprayers from the bottles- I don't think they are meant to be used as much as what we do! Mine break off a lot- the little thingy that you spray with- that little plastic piece that you use to spray with. After a ton of uses daily, it tends to get weak and break off. That is on the top of the bottle, maybe if they made them out of metal, they would last longer- but then they wouldn't be $10!! |
   
hairyterrier
Registered Member Username: hairyterrier
Post Number: 900 Registered: 2-2002 Posted From: 74.192.66.98
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On storing the jars of shampoo....I also had the same idea of having several jars that I could switch out. It didn't work out for me because there are no lids available for these jars. I searched everywhere and even tried every jar lid on jars in my pantry. None fit. I resorted to folding aluminum foil over the tops and that didn't work too well either. They would come off if your brushed against them or if the fan was blowing in their direction, besides being a pain in the butt to deal with. If you leave the jars uncovered hair and dust will get in the shampoo and be sucked up into the blaster and it WILL clog the tiny little aperture that adjusts the amount of shampoo going through the system. All it takes is one hair going through it and the blaster won't work properly. |
   
annie_in_ny
Registered Member Username: annie_in_ny
Post Number: 1396 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 71.246.184.140
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I found out that may jars fit my blaster. Get plastic jars, and make a lot of potato salad  |
   
hairyterrier
Registered Member Username: hairyterrier
Post Number: 902 Registered: 2-2002 Posted From: 74.192.66.98
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Which sprayer are you using? The Hudson and Ortho sprayers jars need a lid larger than a mayo jar, so you couldn't stick a mayo jar under it. Or is there a wide mouth mayo jar out there that does fit? |
   
annie_in_ny
Registered Member Username: annie_in_ny
Post Number: 1398 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 71.246.184.140
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I don't know the name. I got the sprayer from Wal Mart, it could have been a wal mart brand. Any way the jar that came with it broke. I tried an old mayo jar I had.... and it fit. I was surprised my self. I used this for lawn work, not dog work. |
   
4pawssake
Registered Member Username: 4pawssake
Post Number: 283 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 142.68.184.36
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Just wondering if this might work? It's from Canadian Tire. The handle looks comfortable and the bottle smaller (lighter to hold). Any of you tried it? I'm also wondering if a regular shampoo mixer/measuring bottle might just screw right on it. Wendy |
   
4pawssake
Registered Member Username: 4pawssake
Post Number: 284 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 142.68.184.36
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And then I was wondering about this one. It has a switch that goes to "water only" on it which seems to me would cut out the need for a separate rinsing hose. Umm I think I'd probably take the Miracle Grow stuff out first though. Can you imagine those coats the next time they come to the shop? Hey then again, more business, I might just be onto something here. Wendy |
   
hairyterrier
Registered Member Username: hairyterrier
Post Number: 913 Registered: 2-2002 Posted From: 74.192.66.98
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Does the one from Canadian Tire have an adjustment dial on the top to set the dilution or is it just a soap/rinse dial? That's the whole purpose of the Bowser Blaster so that you don't waste shampoo. You can control the amount of shampoo that goes through the sprayer. |
   
4pawssake
Registered Member Username: 4pawssake
Post Number: 285 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 142.68.179.43
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I'm really not sure, I haven't checked it out yet but to look at it on the net, but I'm going to look at it tomorrow. Wendy |
   
gone2dogs
Registered Member Username: gone2dogs
Post Number: 470 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 156.34.162.12
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That would be nice if you could just use the water rinse and not extra hose! Hmmmm.... |
   
progroom
Registered Member Username: progroom
Post Number: 3919 Registered: 2-1999 Posted From: 69.148.246.160
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I've used something similar and it ran out way too quick. I got a new hose end sprayer a few weeks ago and didn't realize it wasn't adjustable. It runs completely out of shampoo in one small dog. Thankfully, I still have the old one, it just leaks a little. |
   
pionono
Registered Member Username: pionono
Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 63.162.64.36
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I use the Ortho sprayer... but I don't use the container... I purchased a piece of plastic tubing from Home Depot ran it to the floor into a gallon bottle with diluted shampoo... can do 10-12 dogs a day without mixing more shampoo... took the weight of the container off my wrist, gave me more flexable angle with sprayer |
   
4pawssake
Registered Member Username: 4pawssake
Post Number: 337 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 142.68.190.234
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Well I went and bought that one that I posted from Canadian Tire. It is adjustable, then rinses with clear. I found the shampoo did run out quickly but I didn't play around with it much to adjust the water flow into the mixer. I like the fact that it has several different flow settings, mist, shower, jet and a few more. The thing I didn't like was that I found it really heavy on the hand. I don't think I could use any of them to be honest. I'll keep it for the HUGE guys. Wendy |
   
sandy
Registered Member Username: sandy
Post Number: 1087 Registered: 6-1999 Posted From: 68.90.60.22
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I am loving my TBB but am wondering why just buying extra Ortho sprayers and using the lid it comes with to store it on the shelf, fill it with your shampoo or conditioner, and leave it on your shelf until you want to switch it out wouldn't work? Then just use the bottom jar part to attach to the sprayer you are already using (run clear water thru it for a second first before you change.)Then put the jar you just switched out on your shelf, covering it with the lid from the other one. |
   
topknotsntailfeathers
Registered Member Username: topknotsntailfeathers
Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 24.196.134.244
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GUESS WHAT!? Hydrosurge is now selling its own version of the TBB ! I am watching an infomercial on tv ight now. its a small hanheld device that holds shampoo packets...excuse my spellin i took my bedtime pain pills and cant type well....i saved the show on tivo... they have a website for it.... selling for three 19.99 payments and s/h....includes the device and hose and 5 shampoo cartidges and they sell a variety of types....special offer includes AKC facial cleanser and over 100 ear/eye/dental wipes... they call it Hydrosurge Rapid Bathing System. |
   
summercavalier
Registered Member Username: summercavalier
Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2006 Posted From: 67.43.70.19
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How can I find the website. Did a search and can't find it anywhere. |
   
topknotsntailfeathers
Registered Member Username: topknotsntailfeathers
Post Number: 28 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 24.196.134.244
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i dont think i can put it here....but i will try.... rapidbathing dot com |
   
k9er
Registered Member Username: k9er
Post Number: 343 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 216.97.188.60
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I've got this thing and I really like it. You can twist the dial on the top to water and soap mix or all water so no need for two hoses. I really like the 9 pattern sprayer. I can use the "shower" setting for a small dog and the "jet" setting for a packed undercoat and it really blasts the shampoo down to the skin. I recently started working in a new facility and they had nothing as far as a bathing system is concerned. I found it at Lowe's for $10, WAY cheaper than the pump I was considering and easier to use IMHO.
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sandy
Registered Member Username: sandy
Post Number: 1149 Registered: 6-1999 Posted From: 68.89.172.218
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K9er, how many dogs can you do before refilling? Looks interesting- I am using an Ortho sprayer and have no complaints, but I'm up for anything new... |
   
progroom
Registered Member Username: progroom
Post Number: 4099 Registered: 2-1999 Posted From: 68.95.126.255
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I tried something like that once. I liked it, but it ran out of shampoo way too fast. Barb |
   
topknotsntailfeathers
Registered Member Username: topknotsntailfeathers
Post Number: 40 Registered: 5-2007 Posted From: 24.196.134.244
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i got the ortho and it does mix well but its very messy...i keep getting soaked cuz of the fan spray..... |
   
lori_a
Registered Member Username: lori_a
Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 72.70.249.74
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Pionono, I like your idea! Is the shampoo in the gallon jug dilluted to the manufacturer's specifications? and what do you set your sprayer at? Thanks, LoriA |
   
pionono
Registered Member Username: pionono
Post Number: 39 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 70.185.186.42
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Shampoo is diluted by ME I use Davis Gold, a gallon makes 5 Gallons... I then use 8-12 oz in my gallon jug... set spray to degree of DIRTY dog... from low to hi... more and more new customers tell us their dog was never this clean before  |
   
k9er
Registered Member Username: k9er
Post Number: 344 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 216.97.188.60
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I use a 20-1 shampoo and I don't dilute it before I put it in the dispenser. I only had three dogs today (new business) so it's hard to tell yet. I have never used the Ortho because I didn't like the fact that there had to be two hoses and that there is only the fan spray on the end. It also seems a little bulky. It only takes a few seconds to pump some shampoo in this one and it's switchable between water and shampoo mix so it's a fair trade for me. |
   
hot_dog
Registered Member Username: hot_dog
Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 66.60.164.64
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k9er, I love the way that thing looks. You like it too. I'm sold. I tried to find it at the lowes website, I had no luck. Do you know who makes it or what it is called? Is it made for washing cars or for fertilizing the grass? Thanks! |
   
lori_a
Registered Member Username: lori_a
Post Number: 25 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 72.79.205.54
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Hi pionono, Do you mean 8-12 oz concentrate shampoo to 1 Gal water? or 8-12 oz of already diluted shampoo to 1 Gal water? or 8-12 oz of diluted shampoo in the Gal container with no additional water added? Thanks, LoriA |
   
lori_a
Registered Member Username: lori_a
Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2006 Posted From: 72.79.205.54
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Hi pionono, Do you mean 8-12 oz concentrate shampoo to 1 Gal water? or 8-12 oz of already diluted shampoo to 1 Gal water? or 8-12 oz of diluted shampoo in the Gal container with no additional water added? Thanks, LoriA |
   
hot_dog
Registered Member Username: hot_dog
Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 66.60.164.64
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k9er, I found that product (Foam ‘n Spray Car Wash Nozzle)online for 25.00 at brookstone. You got a better deal! |
   
k9er
Registered Member Username: k9er
Post Number: 345 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 68.15.119.206
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You're right, it's not on their website. I have found it on Ace Hardware's website tho. The brand on the package I bought at Lowe's was Orbit but it's not on their website either. You can try eBay too. Frustrating ain't it? |
   
hairyterrier
Registered Member Username: hairyterrier
Post Number: 941 Registered: 2-2002 Posted From: 74.192.66.98
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I bought one yesterday at Lowes. It's in the section where the water hoses are. I haven't used it on any dogs yet since it will only be used in the washpit on large dogs (I have a homemade BB in the tub for small ones) I did test it and this thing is going to be wonderful!!! It sucked up some fairly thick shampoo and didn't seem to run out that quick. I was using the Hudson sprayer and really liked it but Lowe's has discontinued this sprayer and only carry the Hudson that you fill with powdered fertilizer My last Hudson sprayer broke and I had to buy an Ortho and hate it. I have to dilute the shampoo pretty thin or it won't suck it up unless I shake it up and down while I'm spraying the dog and the fan spray only really sucks. The Hudson had much better water pressure, plus I get soaked with a lot of splashback using the Ortho. I can't wait till I get another big dog in to try out this new sprayer. |
   
pionono
Registered Member Username: pionono
Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2006 Posted From: 70.185.186.42
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8-12 oz of already diluted shampoo to 1 Gal water |
   
hot_dog
Registered Member Username: hot_dog
Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 66.60.164.64
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k9er, I went and bought it and I love it! Thank you! |
   
k9er
Registered Member Username: k9er
Post Number: 346 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 216.97.188.60
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Great! Where were you able to find it? (Message edited by k9er on June 19, 2007) |
   
hot_dog
Registered Member Username: hot_dog
Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2007 Posted From: 66.60.164.64
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Got it from lowes. $10.00. What a bargin! |
   
ilovemypitbull
Registered Member Username: ilovemypitbull
Post Number: 284 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 205.188.116.6
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k9er,what is the name of thast thing!?? i have to get one asap! i have been having to hand wash ALL dogs since i have no bathing system. it sucks!!!lol. i saw this new thing made by miracle grow called the liqua-feeder but the bottle looks really small and i think i might have to refill it to often. any thoughts? |
   
pamperedpups
Registered Member Username: pamperedpups
Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2007 Posted From: 66.189.200.167
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I've used the Ortho Dial & Spray models with diluted Coat Handler, Spa Lavish shampoos and conditioners as well as DeFlea shampoo with no problems. |
   
ilovemypitbull
Registered Member Username: ilovemypitbull
Post Number: 285 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 205.188.116.6
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hot dog or k9er, where is it on lowes website im searching but i can find it!!! what catagory is it under?? |
   
k9er
Registered Member Username: k9er
Post Number: 347 Registered: 5-2001 Posted From: 68.15.119.206
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It's not on the Lowe's website. It's in the store by the hoses, not with the other sprayers. I have found it on Ace Hardware's website though if you have to order it online. I don't dilute the shampoo I put in the container and I can usually bathe 3-4 small to medium size dogs before refilling. The shampoo I use is 20-1. |
   
ilovemypitbull
Registered Member Username: ilovemypitbull
Post Number: 286 Registered: 9-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.6
| | Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 3:17 am: |
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i found one at wal mart like that one but its a little smaller and kinda dofferent but it has the same design for 5 bucks!! i bought 2 just in case |